Poetic Justice — Lance Armstrong Edition

by Rant on March 2, 2013 · 21 comments

in Lance Armstrong

This time a week ago, Lance Armstrong was probably worried about the impact of the Justice Department joining Floyd Landis’ whistleblower lawsuit against Armstrong and others who owned/ran the US Postal Service/Discovery Channel cycling teams. A week later, the politicians in Washington, DC have shown just how dysfunctional and incapable of governing this country they truly are, and Armstrong must be sitting in his house in Austin or Aspen or Hawaii or wherever the hell he’s living at the moment thinking, “I wonder if those automatic budget cuts will mean the Feds won’t be so dogged in pursuing me as Travis Tygart was.”

How’s that for a run-on rambling sentence? This kid’s got some serious talent for droning on, eh?

Here’s the thing, though. Armstrong ain’t likely to catch such a lucky break. Chances are, the folks at the Department of Justice thought about that before signing on to the lawsuit. So, even though budget cuts will cut a pretty wide swath, whoever made the decision to intervene probably anticipated reduced funds and decided to do this anyway. Which is bad news for Armstrong. In the last week, I read somewhere that the government has a track record of winning or settling 80 percent of these types of cases when they get involved. So right now, it’s an odds-on bet that some amount of money — yet to be determined — will be flowing from Lance Armstrong’s bank account towards the US Treasury.

Curiously, the government didn’t intervene regarding every defendant listed in Landis’ lawsuit. They are currently pursuing Armstrong, Johan Bruyneel, Tailwind Sports LLC and Tailwind Sports Corporation. Conspicuously absent in the list is Thomas Weisel, the financier who backed the team even before Armstrong’s string of (now-nullified) Tour de France wins. VeloNews’ Neal Rogers penned an analysis of why the Feds didn’t go after Weisel a few days ago. In his article, he offers the following quote from a Baltimore lawyer:

“The government’s action would be interpreted several ways,” wrote Mark Stichel, a Baltimore-based attorney who has litigated civil cases in state and federal courts throughout the U.S., in an e-mail to VeloNews.

“One interpretation is that the government believes that Armstrong and Bruyneel were the primary architects of the fraud on the government,” Stichel wrote. “Another interpretation is that the government may have reached or is near reaching settlements with the other defendants and that Armstrong and Bruyneel were balking at settlement so it intervened against them only to prod them into settlement.”

Rogers goes on to point out that the government could change their minds and go after Weisel. But they have only about 60 days from when they joined the Landis lawsuit to do so (counting the days, that would be until about April 20th, if I did the math right).

One possible reason they didn’t decide to go after Weisel and Bill Stapleton and Bart Knaggs, as Rogers mentions, is that the Feds may be close to reaching settlements with each of these individuals. And they may have joined the Landis case against Armstrong in order to get a bigger settlement out of the former seven-times Tour champ. Rumor had it that Armstrong and his lawyers were trying to settle for $5 million, which given the potential damage award in the case (up to $90 million) seems like a pretty paltry sum.

But if the government doesn’t get settlements out of Weisel, Stapleton and Knaggs, does that mean Armstrong and Bruyneel would be on the hook for the total damages — assuming the case goes to trial and damages are awarded? Probably not. Tailwind Sports LLC and Tailwind Sports Corporation are also listed as defendants, so it stands to reason they might bear some of the financial brunt of any damages awarded. But if these organizations have no assets and are no longer doing business, just how much could Uncle Sam squeeze out of them? Not much would be my guess.

Weisel, Stapleton and Knaggs must surely have known the score about the team’s doping program. And I don’t think it stretches credulity to say that they benefited. But how strong a case can the Justice Department bring against those characters? That’s hard to say.

And that brings up another possibility for why the Feds chose (for now) not to go after Weisel and the others. Maybe they don’t think the evidence is strong enough to win. Given that the government will now be cutting back as a result of the sequester, perhaps the decision not to take on Weisel and the others boiled down to ensuring the most effective use of department funds.

Somewhere down the road, the case will be over, and financial penalties will likely be applied. Lance Armstrong is probably going to be writing a check for much more than the $5 million he offered to settle the case. How much more? No idea. Substantially more, I’d guess.

With the odds heavily favoring damages or a settlement, one person is likely to walk away from this case richer than he was before. Floyd Landis. Given the likelihood that the Feds will prevail, Landis looks set to receive somewhere between 15 and 25 percent of whatever the government gets. Landis may well wind up laughing all the way to the bank.  Which will be good news to those who are looking for refunds of their donations to the Floyd Fairness Fund.

There’s a certain amount of irony in the fact that Armstrong’s ill-gotten gains may wind up paying off Floyd’s supporters. Poetic justice, even.

MattC March 4, 2013 at 9:00 am

I’m certainly not condoning the doping that was done on Postal/Discovery…however, speaking of who profited from that doping, I’d have to list US Postal (ie: the Federal Government). Back in those days, there probably wasn’t a better investment in sports. EVERYBODY who associated themselves with Lance was a winner (well, except for those he crushed into submission I mean). I’m not sure how Postal / US Gov can claim they were harmed.

Just my 2 cents worth…obviously I have NO knowledge of the legal system…there’s obviously a LOT I don’t get. I personally wouldn’t call it poetic justice if Floyd ends up getting a pile of Lances money…not sure WHAT I’d call it…something about the old saying “two wrongs don’t make a right”. I’d call it more like a “hugely successful blackmailing from another cheater”. Something about that scenario just rubs me entirely the wrong way.

If that money is to go somewhere, give it to Emma, Betsy, David Walsh, and all the rest of the ones Lance crushed/sued/slandered. But NOT Floyd. Obviously that will never happen tho…what a strange legal-world we live in.

Glad we have a new playground Rant…welcome back!

Rant March 7, 2013 at 1:19 pm

Matt,

After a month or so, it was about time to put up a new post. I hope that whatever money is paid in settlements, fines, etc. winds up going to a good cause.

It’s a quirk of the laws that Landis may profit from Armstrong’s downfall, given that he filed the whistleblower lawsuit. Certainly, Armstrong owes a lot to the people he’s harmed over the years. Frankie and Betsy, Emma, David Walsh and Paul Kimmage should all receive something for the damages Armstrong caused. Whether they will get it is yet to be seen.

William Schart March 8, 2013 at 8:04 am

I won’t comment on the merits of Landis’ suite, but the simple matter is that, whether or not he and the Feds prevail or at least reach some settlement, that issue has nothing whatsoever to do with whatever issues the Andrieus, Emma David etc have, at least in a legal sense.

MattC March 8, 2013 at 10:37 am

An interesting article at Cycling News about the use of blood transfusions in cycling during the 80’s….

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/a-history-on-blood-transfusions-in-cycling-part-3

BuzzyB March 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm

Ho hum…. la de da de da…. someday Lance will melt away, just like the snow. And we can all get back to riding, instead of shoveling.

William Schart March 11, 2013 at 9:39 am

Well, the snow has finally melted off here, except for a few spots here and there. Will Lance be soon to go too?

I remember the days long past when we rode just to ride. Will we ever get back there again?

Rant March 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm

William,

Seems to me that Lance is fading into the background already. Most non-cycling fans, I suspect, are bored of the story and have moved on.

I remember those days of riding just to enjoy the ride. I’m planning on getting back there … just as soon as the snow melts and the roads are (reasonably) dry.

William Schart March 17, 2013 at 7:48 am

Time for a bit of levity. This from a filler bit in the local paper. Seems the ice fishing community if pushing to get into the Olympics, and as a preliminary step, has asked WADA to randomly test ice fishing “athletes”. (You know something is wrong when we are talking about ice fishing as an Olympic “sport” when wrestling has been kicked out.). But the chairman of the U.S. Freshwater Fishing Association said “We do not test for beer, because everyone would fail.”

Liggett junkie March 18, 2013 at 10:51 am
Rant March 18, 2013 at 9:08 pm

William,

When I first heard about ice fishing trying to become an Olympic sport, I thought it was a joke. After all, what athletic skill is there in sitting in a hut, drinking beer, waiting for fish to take the bait? And why on earth would the IOC even consider it? It makes for some very boring telecasts. And the poor announcers, what on earth would they talk about … besides each competitor’s beer selection?

Guess we have to file that under “strange, but true.”

Liggett junkie,

Heard anything more about that lawsuit? I can’t imagine that it will go forward, but stranger things have happened. The eBay add is a stitch. Who would actually want to buy that vest now? Apparently, at least one person has bid on it. A fool and his money …

William Schart March 19, 2013 at 8:43 am

I don’t know about the legal validity of such a lawsuit, but if we were to take that as a precedent, I bet almost every autobiography/memoir would be a potential target for a suit.

Rant March 19, 2013 at 8:56 am

Exactly. Someone could always come along and say, “No. I remember this-and-such happened differently.”

William Schart March 20, 2013 at 2:48 pm

Another bit of humor, more on topic. It was a cartoon in the paper last night. A kid is at the breakfast table and Mom is trying to get him to eat the cereal, so she says “Lance Armstrong would never have made it through two grueling hours with Oprah if didn’t eat his Crunchies.”

William Schart March 24, 2013 at 8:06 am

Darn, the snow is back. Does this mean there’s more Lance news in the works?

Rant April 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm

Must’ve been the last gasp of winter. But then again, the whole dustup over Armstrong signing up for, and then being forced to withdraw from, a masters-level swim meet occurred.

Looks like the powers that be will be vigilant in keeping Lance out of any competition. That’s the nature of lifetime bans, ain’t it?

William Schart April 5, 2013 at 3:11 pm

I hope it was the last gasp. I must admit I missed that about the swim meet. Can they keep him off “Dancing with the Stars”? How about a poker tournament? He ought to be a pretty good bluffer.

Liggett junkie April 8, 2013 at 11:48 am

Why worry about doping in cycling when you can worry about this instead?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305310/Man-gets-shock-toy-poodles-turn-GIANT-RODENTS-steroids.html

William Schart April 9, 2013 at 6:29 am

OK, now we need to do drug tests at dog shows.

Rant April 10, 2013 at 10:21 am

Sounds like DNA testing is needed, actually. Got to give credit to the swindlers, that was a pretty creative con. 😉

William Schart April 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Guess you’re right. But ya gotta wonder to what extent people in the dog show business might be using various drugs on dogs. Horse racing has its doping problem, and we know that livestock people sometimes use stuff to pump up their stock. If someone can make a buck and/or gain some fame by using some drugs, it’s a pretty sure bet someone will do it.

William Schart April 12, 2013 at 9:11 am

Interesting article about MLB buying documents from Biogenesis employees in their investigation:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9162689/report-major-league-baseball-pays-biogenesis-documents

Allegedly, some players are buying up documents to cover up their involvement. Where this all leads, who knows?

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