The Rest Day Blues

by Rant on July 20, 2010 · 20 comments

in Alberto Contador, Andy Schleck, Greg LeMond, Lance Armstrong, Tour de France

No Tour de France to watch today? Got a bit of withdrawal from your daily dose of Phil and Paul? Stop on by and read a spell. Maybe it’ll help cure your case of “The Rest Day Blues.”

One for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, now go cat, go…

If Alberto Contador doesn’t win the 2010 Tour de France, it will probably be due to a tactical mistake he made on Stage 15. While debate rages on the etiquette of attacking Andy Schleck, the yellow jersey, after he’d suffered a mechanical problem (Contador could have eased up and waited), it’s a bike race after all. Etiquette may be one thing, but when push comes to shove, the guy with the lowest overall time wins.

The tactical mistake, on the other hand, could play out in Andy Schleck’s favor. Up to now, Schleck and Contador have been shadow boxing and playing mind games with each other on the mountain stages. Schleck clearly appears to be Contador’s match, but the big concern is his time-trialing ability. Can he perform well enough in the race against the clock to maintain a small lead? Well, at the moment, that question is academic. Contador has the slim margin right now. But in pissing off his rival, Contador may have unleashed an energy in Schleck that may well not have come into play had the infamous dropped chain and the subsequent events not occurred. Anger. If Andy Schleck can harness that anger in a positive way, it could fuel his recapturing the maillot jaune. If anger gets the best of him, it could help Contador.

Last night, Contador posted a YouTube apology (complete with subtitles in English). According to Bonnie D. Ford, Contador said that posting the video was his own idea. And he also told Ford that he and Andy Schleck spoke cordially before the start of today’s stage and “things are clear between us.” Sounds like AC is trying to smooth over some ruffled feathers. Looking at Schleck’s Twitter feed just a bit ago, it appears that the two have patched things up — off the bike, at least.

Whether it was a conscious choice or an unfortunate decision made in the heat of battle, and whether Alberto Contador has actually made amends with Andy Schleck, he will have to live with the fallout. Whatever he was thinking at the time, Contador handed Andy Schleck a bit of motivation that could well hurt the Spanish sensation’s shot at a third Tour title by the time the peloton rides down the Champs-Élysées. The saga will come to an end in just about five days’ time.

People are strange, when you’re a stranger

In the ever-ongoing Lance vs. LeMond wars, Armstrong recently told reporters that he hopes Greg LeMond will tell the truth about 1989. For those who weren’t following cycling then, here’s the Cliffs Notes version: LeMond, 50 seconds behind Laurent Fignon going into the final time trial, pulled off one of the most amazing Tour finishes ever. The American beat his rival by 58 seconds in the time trial, winning the overall general classification by a scant 8 seconds. (The 1989 Tour was the last time that a time trial was held on the final day of the race.)

The difference came down to technology. Fignon chose to use a standard time trial setup, LeMond decided to use the latest innovation — clip-on aero bars. Back in the very late 1980s and early 1990s, the consensus was that using aero bars could give a rider as much as a 2 mile-per-hour boost in speed, due to the more efficient aerodynamic positioning it affords — enough of an advantage for LeMond to overcome Fignon’s 50-second lead going into the final stage.

Armstrong, fielding questions about a certain investigation back home, said that he would be happy to cooperate — as long as it wasn’t a witch hunt. And he went on to insinuate that LeMond might have gotten a different kind of boost in 1989 than just the benefit of aero bars. Things are certainly getting uglier in the land of Greg vs. Lance. I guess that’s to be expected.

Other than some vague suggestions in various quarters, no one has ever offered up any serious proof (at least in English) that LeMond wasn’t a squeaky-clean rider back in the day. Just as Lance has never failed an official test (well, except that once, when he got a retroactive therapeutic use exemption to cover his tail end — and maybe that other time when he’s alleged to have made a donation to cover things up — and well … let’s not get into it, shall we?).

I’m guessing it will get uglier before the Novitzky investigation comes to an end.

And if things couldn’t get any stranger…

Alberto Contador actually said something nice about Lance. No, really, he did. Contador told Bonnie D. Ford that “it would have made me happy” if Lance Armstrong had won today’s stage. That didn’t happen, and there are precious few opportunities for the Texan to claim a stage victory in his final Tour. (Or is it?  … Will Lance pull a Favre and come back next year? … I’m just askin’.)

Just one more before we go

Totally unrelated to the other subjects in this post: I ran across this article just over a week ago which offers an interesting perspective on facts and how people may or may not be persuaded to change their opinions in light of contradictory evidence. Joe Keohane, in an article published on boston.com, writes:

It’s one of the great assumptions underlying modern democracy that an informed citizenry is preferable to an uninformed one. “Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1789. This notion, carried down through the years, underlies everything from humble political pamphlets to presidential debates to the very notion of a free press. Mankind may be crooked timber, as Kant put it, uniquely susceptible to ignorance and misinformation, but it’s an article of faith that knowledge is the best remedy. If people are furnished with the facts, they will be clearer thinkers and better citizens. If they are ignorant, facts will enlighten them. If they are mistaken, facts will set them straight.

In the end, truth will out. Won’t it?

Maybe not. Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

“Don’t confuse me with the facts,” the late U.S. Representative Earl Landgrebe (R-IN) once said as Congress voted on a resolution to impeach President Richard Nixon, “my mind’s made up.” (Landgrebe was the sole vote against Nixon’s impeachment.) Apparently, Landgrebe was right. Some people don’t want to be confused by the facts.

It seems to me that given the whole saga of doping in sports, and in other aspects of life, what the political scientists discovered doesn’t just apply to politics. Take a few moments to read Keohane’s article. It’s an interesting discussion of whether facts can actually change people’s minds.

austincyclist July 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

Nightline Friday night.

MikeG July 22, 2010 at 9:36 am

Just came across this on MSNBC:
Armstrong hires criminal defense attorney
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38354912/ns/sports-tour_de_france/

eightzero July 22, 2010 at 10:41 am

Gotta say I really love the Nissan ad right in the middle of that MSNBC article that has LA’s picture and the caption “Discover the science behind legendary performance.” Doubleclick ads can be so…ironic. The only thing better might have been a Festina ad.

Rant July 22, 2010 at 12:19 pm

eightzero,

I didn’t get that ad when I looked at the article. Woulda been funny, though. I’ve seen things like that before. Always good for a laugh.

AC,

Thanks for the tip. I’ll have to set the DVR to record that show.

MikeG,

I saw a similar story earlier. Interesting development. I also saw an article where a (previous?) LA lawyer was complaining to the feds about all the leaks. Of course, that letter was leaked, too.

William Schart July 22, 2010 at 12:30 pm

I was going to say those ads tend to appear based on your own personal browsing history, but when I went to the link, I got a politically oriented ad rather contrary to my own politics, so go figure. Maybe just random.

Rosemary July 22, 2010 at 4:13 pm

I’m in France and on the MSNBC link I got an ad in French…no idea what it is for!

eightzero July 22, 2010 at 5:02 pm

“Athletes cheat to win,” says [Victor] Conte. “And the government cheats to win too.”
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2005820,00.html?hpt=T2

Maybe the rules don’t apply. As Rant points out, perhaps Truth and Facts are irrelevant. Maybe there really is no spoon to begin with.

austincyclist July 23, 2010 at 9:00 am

just some thoughts on this whole ordeal.. its definitely not Rant quality writing.. 🙂

Do we need Harvey Dent?

Batman 2. The character Harvey Dent (two-face). There is the image that gotham needs, and then there is the reality that he has become from manipulation and environment set forth by the joker. More on this in a bit..

So, myself, like many others on this forum.. are glued to all the drama and news about the Lance Armstrong doping allegations. There are many folks that have a real hatred of Lance, they see all the evidence and common sense understanding that he probably did do all of which Landis suggests.. The hatred “feel” is large. It also applies to Landis, perhaps more-so at this juncture by joe public (perhaps 10X more for Lance later). I don’t subscribe to the hatred.. I had some anger when Floyd went public.. but that’s gone..

For folks in-the-know on all of which has transpired, the hate is mostly on Lance, the too big to fail guy…

On Tyler. I have always been a big Lance fan, but Wanted to see other American riders do well at the Tour.. at first I thought we might find that with Tyler.. that ride with the fractured collarbone was amazing.. so when all that came out.. I’ll admit, I believed him, when he was saying.. “I’m innocent”.. eventually another positive, crazy twin defence moves.. and I had some real doubts.. Was never sure, but my gut told me he was guilty.

Now enter Floyd. It was interesting.. I was telling folks back in 2004 that I thought he could win the tour.. all my friends said no.. they only listened to Phil, Paul, Bob, etc.. and their top tour boys.. but I really thought he could do it, I was getting tired of Lance hoopla.. really wanted another American to jump in.. 2006 comes along.. BAM! That tour win was more exciting than any of the Lance ones.. Lance, pretty much had it in the bag every time.. but for Floyd.. this was just an amazing story.. Mennonite, more of a normal-acting(no god complex), listened to Kid-Rock, squeaky Clean all-american type guy, fails in a stage, its over.. completely over.. then surprise.. he did it!! Was awesome, I totally got the water bottle cooling effect on his solo effort (keeping Floyd at 70 degrees while everyone else was suffering in the 90s). It was perfectly logical win, and amazing, unexpected.. That’s why we watch cycling, for moments like that.. Then the doping allegations.. I immediately discounted them.. first the T, at the time.. I didn’t know anything about doping other than EPO and Blood Transfusions.. so T really didn’t seem like something that would help.. nor did I think Landis would be stupid enough to take it and get caught.. I actually found online that same night that T values get skewed from alcohol.. which he had the previous night, and later used the same defence (I wonder if he picked that up from my forum postings?).. anyhow, the whole thing errupted.. I had some doubts along the way, but the thing that kept me on the Landis side was the FFF, the national (I’m innocent) tour.. the blogs like this one and TBV poking all the holes, his parents and town backing him up.. I just couldn’t believe someone could lie that “well”.. In fact, in my mind, the jury is still out on whether it was a valid T test result.. which Floyd says he didn’t take (during 2006 at least).. I don’t know if he’s trying to save a little bit of face, or is telling the truth.. honestly don’t care on that point.. I do believe the other things he’s saying about Lance. I also admit, I’m waiting to see all the facts come out.. I’m 97% sure LA and JB are guilty, but I was 98% on Floyd’s side before. So the jury is still out on that too… as I’ve been wrong before!

Now, on Lance.. the hatred I see on all the forums, he must go down in flames.. I don’t buy into it.. Its just a sad ordeal.. My interest in all that, and continued focus, stems from the seed that was planted back in the 2006 tour for Floyd.. Its not Lance’s story that I was sucked into, its Floyd’s story.. and that Story needs keep going.. Its the Corleone family story.. It has good and evil.. and having to do things because of the environment you’re stuck in.. I was still rooting for Lance at the tour this year, I don’t agree with their lack of Levi support (but let’s be honest, Levi doesn’t have a tour winner personality/drive).. and apparently, Levi is sick and that why he fell back so far on the big climb.. where a Mr. Horner dropped everyone and their mother from team Shack.. perhaps JB again picked the wrong race horse for GC.. his Lance loyalties run deep. So anyway back to topic, my thing is this.. I’m not excited to see the downfall of Lance Armstrong, his Cancer Foundation, the image. And I have a real problem with the blood lust folks have.. I follow folks on twitter to get the latest info.. but wow.. their life is centered around the fall of Lance.. and what will they do when its over? I’m more apt to defend someone I think is innocent
(aka my focus on the FL ordeal) than to tear someone down that I think is guilty (LA).. especially if they’re going away.. Having said that, I do think it needs to happen… for the natural order of the universe… But.. In the big picture, maybe it is better for the Symbol to remain, America, or the majority of cycling fans or cancer survivors may need their Harvey Dent image to remain as it was…

William Schart July 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm

You make some good points Austin. I too find the vitriolic hatred rather over the top. Not that I approve of dopers and other forms of cheating, but I hope that I can keep things in prospective.

I think one factor at play here is the words “drug” and “dope” and their various forms. Particularly after the 1960s, with its “Turn on and drop out” mentality, these are often loaded words. If it turns out that Cancellera (I think it was him) did indeed use that electric bottom bracket, I think he would be as much it not more of a cheater than anyone who used PEDs. After all, with PEDs, you still are only using your body. But that’s a philosophical question; you may have different opinions and who’s to say who is right.

Anyway, if the authorities overlook potentially illegal acts involving “drugs”, they do run the risk of incurring unfavorable public opinion, and perhaps some official or at least semi-official unfavorable opinion too.

On one hand, it would be quite easy, perhaps, to dismiss FL as a bitter and disgraced athlete, trying to bring down others and lacking any credibility. But he has made some rather specific allegations, to totally ignore them could be remiss.

I, for one, am less interested in the question “Did Lance dope?” than I am in the question “Did the team have a drug program?”. It could be that the answer to the first question is “No” while the answer to the second could be “yes”. And government funds are involved here, it is legitimate for the government to inquire as to whether or not funds were used improperly or illegally.

I find troubling that argument that the authorities should not investigate things like this because they have more pressing things. If you were the victim of a crime, would you want the authorities to ignore it because it didn’t register high enough on someone’s scale of values? Sure, there might come a point in time where Novitsky says “I’ve looked into things and haven’t been able to find much solid evidence”, so things get put on the back burner unless/until something else turns up.

So let’s see where this takes us. It might go nowhere, it might take down some people a bit lower down than LA, or it might go to the top. Whatever, let the chips fall where they may.

austincyclist July 23, 2010 at 6:44 pm

This guy is insane.. The Phoenix! Pretty entertaining..
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jes46G6FXVY&feature=related
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M02LqfGK_ww

Rant July 23, 2010 at 9:07 pm

AC,

Entertaining is an understatement. Whoa … !

William Schart July 25, 2010 at 1:34 pm

Well, the Tour is over now, and so far, to the best of my knowledge, there have been no drug busts. Of course, there are samples still waiting to be tested, from the latter stages, so something still might come up.

Liggett junkie July 26, 2010 at 10:32 am

Oh no! Now Lance Armstrong and Johan Bruyneel are REALLY in trouble!
————————————————————
Press release – Team RadioShack to appear before UCI Disciplinary Commission

Date:
26.07.2010

Description: The International Cycling Union (UCI) wishes to announce that disciplinary proceedings will be opened against Team RadioShack, for breaching the regulations governing riders’ clothing.

The UCI regrets that an initiative for a cause as worthy as the fight against cancer was not coordinated beforehand with the Commissaires and organisers of the event. This could have been done whilst remaining within the rules.

Team RadioShack’s incorrect behaviour led to a 20-minute delay to the start of the final stage, which could have disrupted the televised coverage of the race, placing the Commissaires under the obligation to impose a fine on each rider and the team managers.

Team RadioShack subsequently breached the regulations by wearing an incorrect uniform on the podium for the protocol ceremony having been instructed not to.

The UCI also deplores the declarations made by Mr Johan Bruyneel who gravely offended all the Commissaires working in cycling. His remarks are utterly unacceptable, and Mr Bruyneel will be called upon to answer for his comments before the UCI Disciplinary Commission.

As the action of Team RadioShack was inspired by the desire to raise public awareness of the breadth of the global fight against cancer, the UCI has decided that any fines levied as a result of this matter would be donated to the Ligue suisse contre le cancer.

UCI Press Office
————————————————————

Quick personality test: which question sprang to mind first?

(1) What on earth did Bruyneel SAY? and what language did he say it in?

(2) What is Greg LeMond’s reaction? Bribe or no bribe?

(3) Who exactly is complaining about holding up the race so attractive men could take off their clothes on international television?

(4) Is this the same sport that lets you beat up a fellow competitor after the race for 400 Swiss francs?

Rant July 26, 2010 at 10:40 am

I know, rules are rules, but …

My first reaction is: “Tempest meet Teapot.”

Liggett junkie July 26, 2010 at 11:42 am

Here is a helpful article. The way Miller’s handing out grand jury subpoenas like party favors in the Novitzky investigation, I’ve got a feeling I’M going to need this.

“What to Do When Served With a Grand Jury Subpoena”
Greg Saikin and Sarah Tubbs

Texas Lawyer, June 11, 2008

http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202422146339

William Schart July 26, 2010 at 12:50 pm

But beating up someone probably didn’t interfere with the TV schedule.
Seesh, what do you think is important here?

Hey, maybe this is why UCI/ASO/WADA are so pissed off about PEDs: they play havoc with the schedule. If a stage finishes too early because the riders are juiced, then we have to listen to Phil and Paul etc. (or the equivalent in other languages) fill time.

eightzero July 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm

He said/ She Said:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/open-letter-from-dr-michele-ferrari

Woner if Michele would be willing to accept an invitation to the US by Mr. Novitsky?

William Schart July 26, 2010 at 9:11 pm

Well, to the best of my knowledge, he can’t have violated any US laws, even if he was guilty of things that would be illegal in the US, since he didn’t do any of his alleged actions in US jurisdiction. Does Italy have double jeopardy? If so, he couldn’t be convicted for anything that he was cleared off in the case mentioned. So why not come over and testify, or at least, submit to a deposition in Europe?

eightzero July 27, 2010 at 1:07 pm

I was merely suggesting Michele would perhaps like to appear voluntarily. You know, to clear his name and all. Not sure a federal subpoena has much effect in other countries, but the French had no compunction about issuing an “international arrest warrant” for FL and Arnie Baker.

There is no requirement that restricts application of US law to act inside the US. You can break US law when not in the US. The problem is simply one of jurisdiction, not substantive law. Of course, presence in the jurisdiction generally solves the personal jurisdiction problem.

In other missing news, where are the tour positives? WTF? Golly, have we finally cleaned up this sport? Or maybe [insert pinky in corner of mouth] there is New Evil Afoot?

Rant July 27, 2010 at 1:33 pm

I think there’s a New Evil Afoot. Like hidden, silent, jet-propulsion packs that cause riders to climb like F-15s. The heck with those wimpy mini-motors stuck inside frames, these secret jet engines provide way more kick.

😉

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